The Why Behind The What

The ‘what’ can spark a conversation; the ‘why’ can open up one’s soul. Season Two’s theme is Ancient Contemplative Spirituality for Today’s Transformation

Episode Twelve: The Love of the City

November 7th, 2016

I love the city. In them, I am connected to my spiritual side. In them, I sense God's presence. In this episode, I share how the city is the place where I see God's ultimate creation and God's ultimate creations' creations.

Episode Eleven: Protesting in Charlotte with Ray McKinnon

September 26th, 2016

In this episode, I interview Ray McKinnon, a minister who has been at the Charlotte protests in the recent days. He shares his story of being present at the Charlotte protests as they turned from peaceful to violent, his heart for humanizing both police officers and protestors, and what it is like for him to be an African American minister in North Carolina. It is a powerful and important episode. You can follow him on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook.

Episode Nine: Why We Sing with Josh

August 28th, 2016

So, it's been a while. But, glad to be back with a new episode. In this podcast, I share a sermon I recently co-preached with one of my best friends, Josh. He and I give the why behind what we do in a Sunday morning church gathering. To listen to more sermons, check out my sermon page.

Episode Eight: Racial Justice with Darren Calhoun

July 18th, 2016

In this episode, I interview Darren Calhoun, a worship leader, social activist, and photographer. We talk about his reaction to the recent police shootings that resulted in the death of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile, the Black Lives Matter movement, racial justice, and intersectionality.

You can learn more about Darren on his website, follow him on Twitter, or like his Facebook page. To find out more of what Darren is doing, be sure to check out Evangelicals for Social Action and Urban Village Church.

Episode Six: The Why Behind Embracing Love

June 6th, 2016

In this episode, I share why I wrote my book, Embracing Love: My Journey to Hugging a Man in His Underwear. After giving a summary of how my book came into existence, I also share a model for church I call Belong Believe Become and how many churches, unfortunately, reverse this model.

For those interested, Embracing Love is available for purchase on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or the Covenant Bookstore. An eBook version is available for the Kindle, Nook, iBooks, and Google Play.

Episode Four: 1440 And Counting with Tony Gapastione

May 9th, 2016

In this episode, I interview Tony Gapastione. He is an actor, pastor, and filmmaker. Most recently, he released his film 1440 and Counting and will soon begin production on his second film, Neighbor.

You can find out more about Tony, his work and films at

Episode Three: Tap Dancing Dresses with Jeff Kready

April 25th, 2016

In this episode, Nathan interviews Jeff Kready, Broadway performer who has starred in such shows as A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, Billy Elliot, and Les Miserables. They talk tap dancing dresses, the struggles of performing, the joys of storytelling, and the way faith plays a role.

Check out Jeff's website or follow him on Twitter.

Episode Two: Colossians, Indicatives, and the Why

April 11th, 2016

In this episode, Nathan shares an example of the why behind the what from the letter to the Colossians. In it, he reminds listeners the 'what' comes from Colossians 3-4, but the 'why' comes from Colosians 1-2.

Episode One: The Why Behind the What

March 25th, 2016

Welcome to the first episode of The Why Behind the What.